To this day, there is not enough evidence to prove her guilt or innocence. Usually it isnt there but every once in awhile, it comes out. And if he really was attached to them and wanted to offer them a permanent home, it means he was unfit to be the prosecutor in this case. As a rule, any child under the age of ten prompts counsel to question the competence of any testimony that child might give. But in this case, she had no blood on her body or her clothing. Modernism mixed with Medieval state of mind. The question is of course, how can we determine guilt or innocence without a fair trial? If not from her high profile status, she would already be out. Lived In Clarksville TN, Bountiful UT, Gilbert AZ, . We identified 6 records related to "Robert Knickerbocker" in the state of Arizona. Tucson, Arizona, United States. From the very beginning, the DAs office had their ducks in a row because in an unprecedented move, Judge Gregory Foote who had denied access to the children by all blood relatives and given their care over to the State, was promoted from juvenile to senior judge to preside over the trial of Diane Downs. I was shocked any asked why she thought that. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Giving to charity is a meaningful way to honor someone who has died. Diane was right-handed. Brewer changed his mind. Five doctors have observed and documented this phenomenon. Her parents Willadene and Wes were old school Baptist parents who raised her under strict guidelines without much warmth but complete devotion. but I think there are some extreme cases that knock women in a bad psychotic way that can be life threatening. Messed. It was faulty. (LOL!! The scene described in Small Sacrifices with little Christie hooked up to a machine and her pulse accelerates because she is terrified ofher mother is doubtful and subject to interpretation. People tend to forget that the group of young women hanging out with Manson were deeply engaged in serious drug use and totally out of their mind at the time. During his travels, he visited prisons and spoke against this type of barbarism because his father was imprisoned for a debt of 40 pounds and 10 shillings when he was twelve years. I think that she has done enough time and should be released. Besides, none of those diagnoses are illegal. Phenobarbital was administered alongside the Dilantin. A long long time ago. . There are 3 court records for "Robert Knickerbocker" in "Pima County". And he was found not guilty because his defense team played the race card in an area of LA where they did not trust the police and discussed EDTA and DNA ad nauseam to confuse the jurors. Additionally, homicide or assault victims shot by someone else can test positive for GSR. What is known for a fact, is, Prosecutor Fred Hugi took physical custody of Christie and Danny shortly after Christies confessions to her school mates, and he officially adopted them in the summer of 1986. I am interested in the truth. statement regarding the effects of the childrens medications while in hospital should acknowledge where the blogger obtained information about the side effects.). All these years later, Diane Downs still maintains her innocence. It seems that not being American might help us view the case and Rules narrative with more objectivity. It sounds like Diane was trying to tell her to stay away from bad influences. I have researched the case and pointed out discrepancies and the fact that it was not the slam dunk that they were portraying. They should have had ongoing contact and been placed with family as soon as they were out of the hospital and they never should have been interviewed without their own attorney (Guardian ad Litem) present. Thank you for presenting a side of the story & case apart from the usual narrative. I also found it interesting that when he had visited Diane in prison, he had remarked a strange air about her; which did not mean guilt. It should be removed from the blog. I will change it. No matter how horrible people think she is. Right away, the police asked her to go back to the crime scene even thoughshe did not want to leave her children behind. YouTube is a video-sharing website where users can upload and watch videos, subscribe to user channels and leave comments. They were put in an impossible situation. .well yay for youtubelol..is when I first heard her in old interviews. And Robert Knickerbocker became one of her lovers. I am all for reviewing facts and getting a decision overturned in cases of corrupt decisions, and many people are on your side and find these cases totally worth their time. Hospital employees recall that Downs attitude was very strange and she seemed incredibly calm in spite of her tragic situation. 2023 Warner Bros. As a result, he decided not to attend the rest of the trial. I couldnt get my hands on the book nor find anything in librariesso basically it was many years later I dove into knowing more about this case, that kinda haunted me. had to wait for Christie to be able to tell them who did it. On May 19, 1983, Elizabeth Diane Downs and her three small children were shot on a country road near Springfield, Oregon. And according to the law, she should have been released by now, independently of what she says or not. It was a dark and rural road. It wasnt until Prosecutor Hugi said Dr. Jamison had labeled Diane a deviant sociopath that Mr. Nevertheless, what was done seemed out of our hands and we could have no contact with them at all. Lori, I luv how you ended your comment Lets also remember that this is the US of A and we dont lock people up for being narcissistic, antisocial histrionic individuals. She was a first time offender who has shown no violent tendencies and is afflicted with a mental illness. The rest of the family? They had him micromanaged, and with the testimony of little Christie they were in business. She (Diane) managed to jump in the car after getting shot in the arm. Hey Jace, I was not going to post your insulting comments but I decided to let the last sentence fly so that I could answer it. 2. Diane was found guilty and sentenced to life and she has been in prison ever since. Nothing in this blog claims Diane is innocent. And the flat affect and sometimes inappropriate smiling would come with the territory so you cannot judge her actions without taking into account that she might not have been acting according to the norms. did he have eyes in the back of his head.???? Only in Hollywood and in Ann Rules books, would you find such fantasy: Relevance? There is also a recording where she says that she had no idea who shot them. You make an interesting observation when you say: Anyways. Only after these avenues are exhausted should non-relative placement be looked at. In reply to Kit The fact that the DA adopted the children, since it was after the trial, is more of a gray area. And if the fact that cops lied about the gun to close the deal did not bother you, it bothered me because this is not due process. Shes guilty. All Filters. The parole board in Oregon was asking to provide reasonable cause to show she was not a danger to society and it had to be supported by a psychiatrists report or a Wardens letter and Downs provided both. Resides in Phoenix, AZ. But I am realistic. The State had the same gut feeling and made sure she would pay. Of course buying drugs with three kids in the middle of the night from a guy like that is not the mindful thing to do, but would be more consistent as an explanation for her actions. Diane Downs is guilty beyond any doubt and I do not believe that her daughter was coached. But if you compare the time she was seen by the witness to the timing of her arrival at the hospital, it seems to indicate she went pretty fast, butnone of it was explained ordemonstrated properly. Yet in their mind, she was already guilty. Leaving out a lot of info that should be included and presenting a very one sided take on these things. These are no facts its partial truths and conjecture. The notes taken daily by the nurses became a point of contention at trial. Wasnt he the stranger? She signed an affidavit to that effect and wanted the jury informed of it but it was never done. What got her convicted was two things the towel and Christie. It is also very is to clean. Everything matters in a trial and investigation. It was very unfair to raise them away from their grandparents and other blood relatives. At the very least, she should have been released by now. Diane recanted the stories about her dad who vehemently denied them. Or be mentally ill. How ironic. I agree that the verdict may have been very different. Find Robert Knickerbocker's phone number, address, and email on Spokeo, the leading people search directory for contact information and public records. Why did they let her daughter testify when she could not know who shot her and said so incessantly until they made her say what they wanted? She complained about it, but that does not mean she did not suffer for her kids. So appropriate! She did not have the opportunity to clean her hands with the right product to erase all traces and she was tested pretty fast, contrary to many other cases. Do you remember probably about four or five days after One could argue that this blog does not stick to what came out at trial. Plus according to an expert at trial, her testimony did not match the blood spatter analysis in the car. This site is provided as a service of SCI Shared Resources, LLC. Christie said that her mother had pulled the car over on the dark, isolated road, retrieved something from the trunk of the car, and started shooting at her and her siblings. Everyone deserves peace. Ms. Downs makes every effort to avoid emotional stimuli in order to reduce the demands made on her. She even provided the police with her own sketch. But if you compare them, and if stranger there was, there are similarities but it is not dead on. . Nearly every point you make here was addressed and disproved or not even allowed into evidence. A trial should be based on facts and solid direct or circumstantial evidence. The absence of the gun or gun powder residues on Diane is fact. Rule even talked about writing a book about her but it never materialized. It wasnt simply her demeanor that got her convicted. I lived through the media coverage. But, as would be the case years later with both Stuart and Smith, the shocking truth eventually came to light that Diane Downs had allegedly lied about the deadly attack on her children. How interesting. Hugi didnt rush in and take the kids, he had time to consider. Steve also told police that Diane was still obsessed with her ex-lover Robert Knickerbocker, who had eventually put an end to their torrid love affair. In Rules book, Diane is portrayed as a horrible selfish mother but her family and friends saw another version; she lovedher childrendearly and worked hard to be a good provider. View Robert Knickerbocker's record in Tucson, AZ including current phone number, address, relatives, background check report, and property record with Whitepages. And Im really not on the fence the little girl was coachedI believe the ex husband , his freinds, and her lovers were invalid either way. The lovely Farrah Fawcett who played in the movie Small Sacrifices was known for her epic battles with lover Ryan ONeil. While Rules book is biased, it was a look into the view of those who wanted justice for those children, wether you agree w/ their conclusion or not, that was their goal. Robert Knickerbocker in Scottsdale, AZ Robert Knickerbocker may also have lived outside of Scottsdale, such as Phoenix. The children were in the hospital, it isnt like they could have taken them home. On May 19, 1983, Diane and her kids visited a friend to look at her new horse, and then went for a drive; not at all unusual for this family not living according to middle class rules. The price of celebrity for her was losing her freedom and her children for life. I saw that same face in Diane Downs. When analysing this blog, look at three statements from the blogger: Diane Downs and Alice Crummins were considered sluts Spending 35 years incarcerated with time in isolation and often as a target is not going to improve mental health. I am not from USA, never have been there, but my impression is that in USA media are far more powerful than the justice system and rational thinking is crushed by easy emotional moods, stereotypes and a hunger for violence coated in a pompous moral attitude. Even on a worldwide scale, the age of accountability is considered to be twelve years old. Q. Downs then fell in love with a married coworker named Robert Knickerbocker, who continuously promised Diane hed be with her and always reneged. Police witness reports of strangers and confessions were suppressed or not pursued. Thats food for thought. And being the mother of three only served to propel Diane in a more manic state. Her children were obviously more severely injuredbecause being captive in the car while a shooter aimed at them gave them less of a chance to wiggle out of the situation than an adult outside the car. Hi Nanette, it is not a matter of being gullible. She would have been released under strict conditions with the support of her family and under the care of a mental health specialist. Every single one. They went after Diane at trial for tapping her foot when they played Hungry like the wolf. I enjoyed your take, and agree their are several reasons with this, and lets be honestevery other case ever prosecuted, to take pause and question but Diane continues to lie, make up brand new stories about people after her, and has made no moves to better herself in any way shape or form while shes been in prison, by her own admission. For more on this case, watch the "Fatal Attraction" episode of Investigation Discovery's Deadly Women on ID GO now! Rule made up stories to sell books and the rights to a movie. And the interrogations were not tapedand barelydocumented. Robert Knickerbocker is 66 years old today because Robert's birthday is on 05/15/1956. Jump through the States hoops, or find a noose around your neck. LMFAO!!!! Survived by family in Tucson and sister, Audrey Marbaker of Retta, Susquehanna County, PA. One of the flaws was the relationship between the DA and the children. They should have looked for a possible accomplice and checked all the leads. They hardly investigated any other lead after a couple of weeks. I wish she could get a new look. I am not biased. This is also a faster route to give the children permanency, and is far cheaper for the child welfare system that is always strained by the budget. In hindsight Im sure the grandparents wish they had pursued visitation more aggressively. View property details and household demographic information related to income, investments, and interests. So imagine when you are troubled to begin with. In her case it seems to be more a matter of punishment. Hed left his first wife to co-habitate with (and later marry) Charlene. So it looks and sounds like she is getting special treatment because of her notoriety. Was that Annes fault as well? The tape is real and probably not admissible, but it seems to indicate that her testimony was coerced: Why is it not admissible? The blog tries to bring balance and more objectivity to a case that was TOTALLY one sided and still is. Christie was born in October of 1974 and Cheryl Lynn in January of 1976. And of course, she added her own brand of paranoia, which is to be expected considering her personality disorder and what she went through. In 1992 I became involved in this work following my interest and research into a notorious murder trial that was held in Oregon many years ago. He was interogated but, the police never had a reason to doubt him. Christie was it though. Resides in Scottsdale, AZ. Its more understandable now, after all this time but it has done her so much harm, then and now View their profile including current address, phone number 520-293-XXXX, background check reports, and property record on Whitepages, the most trusted online directory. Now Diane Downs did not say any of this, but told a hard to believe story, and then changed it from one to two masked guys, etc. I do not discuss her guilt or innocence because this is not what the blog is about, but I personally hope she is released one day. Diane is not a killer or a liar! ..maybe it was lack of Internet and cellies *shrug)..years later, my Co worker at burger King (I was 16)told me about the small sacrifices movie she watched the night before. I am a Mortuary science student, true crime fanatic, and have been following the Downs case since it happened. Lets not take that lightly. In high school, she met handsome Steven Downs who saw her for the great beauty she had become. The lawsuit against Ann Rule was thrown out as unfounded because after reading her book they could find no inconsistencies She sat thru the entire trial AND used actual court transcripts. And, while Cheryl died, the other two children survived with terrible wounds Danny was left paralyzed from the waist down and Christie suffered a stroke that left her with a speech impairment. If I was of a mind to manipulate the Board by giving voice to the words they want me to utter, Id have sold my soul two decades ago when the lies would have benefited me and my youth passed long ago. Rule sued the Seattle Weekly after they published the article titled Ann Rules Sloppy Storytelling, but she lost and had to make restitution. Even more now with hindsight because of the gun and the fact that her daughter kind of recanted by demonstrating that if pushed, she will say what is expected of her. People can have a certain vibe and act out of the norms, but it does not make them necessarily guilty. As Ms. Patterson left the stand, Diane complained to her attorney that Ms. Patterson had lied under oath. Diane was instructed to reenact her response to the attacker who murdered her daughter. Nobody ignored Dianes demeanor. It probably was not salacious enough for her readers that she polled online to establish if there was enough interest in the story to fill her pockets with a definite blockbuster. Don't know what in the world came over me, Christopher P. Stokes told a Wisconsin court. How one of them lied on the stand about ballistics? Not unlike Diane, Alice did not want to share her pain in public. In the moment of who shot youmy momhave a hard time believing that could be coached. They did not want reunification to keep their verdict intact. Knickerbocker reported to the police that Downs had stalked him and seemed . Fred Hugi was pretty upset when Ann Rule went Hollywood with his case. I must humbly admit that I had not questioned the facts of the case before readily accepting this image of Diane as a cold blooded killer. Diane was cooked the minute she walked in that courtroom. It should have raised a red flag concerning her mental stability or the possibility that more people were involved. The weird behavior (laughing and joking in the shooting reenactment), bullets found at her home and the constant changing of her story only is icing on her guilty cake. The strong, emotive language. The casing from the bullets exactly matched, just like a fingerprint, the bullets that Diane had in her home from her own gun which was never found. I would also like to express my disbelief that the same judge presided over both the child welfare case and the criminal one. I agree that the phone call from Angel was totally inappropriate. I think that the time she has served and her good behavior made her eligible for parole. The very suspicious aspect of this ballistic saga is that Hugi said they had the bill of sale and serial number for the first Ruger and it was definitely the murder weapon. And Robert Knickerbocker became one of her lovers. Its too late for me to call myself a murderer (when I am not) just to purchase my freedom. There have been behaviors that in the general course of events one may expect from a single parent that in a way have been falsely interpreted as being some form of evil.. Tina, if you look at family pictures of the Downs, Christie is the eldest and this is her picture. She was interrogated without a representative from the defense and was not taped for the most part. Kumbaya my Lord, Kumbaya. Robert Knickerbocker in Phoenix, AZ Robert Knickerbocker may also have lived outside of Phoenix, such as Carefree and Scottsdale. Are we to believe that Proctors second gun was stolen with the bill and ID from the first gun that remained listed at the gun store? Just goes to show how difficult it is sometimes to find the truth. The problem with high profile cases is that the media, the DA, the cops and authors like Ann Rule dictate the narrative and it becomes almost impossible to look any other way unless you are a critical thinker devoid of emotions related to the case. From what we know about Becky, she had chosen a difficult path and Diane was trying to warn her. This reminds me of what a jail counselor named Rachel Roth said at the trial of Debra Milke Its my opinion that this young woman has been judged in a way that signifies something to do with how we view women in our society. I cannot be more transparent than that and integrity was one of the missing pieces of the entire case. This blogger apparently believes anything she hears to support her inaccurate theory that Diane Downs was falsely accused and convicted. I would like to raise the numerous issues with this blog. I mean, yeah, I can see the no contact order with Diane. Most get through it fine, maybe some complications or pain, maybe even some post pardum. This unexpected proposal took Diane by surprise at a large family gathering. Moreover, it was not a suicide case, but of a woman who supposedly shot herself in the arm and her 3 children several times. Would you know at what speed you are going if you were shot and driving with wounded children in the car? I am not sure. Once you are vilified in the media in the US, the way Downs and others have been, a lot of people shut their eyes and their mind to any other possibility than what was presented in the court of public opinion. Any thoughts on how the detectives basically made up their mind right away in spite of numerous tips coming in? Not exclusively a USA trait, this happens also in many countries, but in a technologically advanced superpower like USA this attitude is more shocking, and maybe also more worldwide spread. As soon as Diane was found guilty, Hugi demanded that Diane be evaluated by a psychiatrist before sentencing so they could declare her a dangerous offender and give her a stiffer sentence. Three-year-old Danny was believed to have been asleep at the time of the incident. They played the tape in the courtroom, and the fact that Diane did not break down but tapped her foot to the music, was supposed to be another proof of her guilt. If she was such a manipulative person, she would not be in prison for life, would she? The most frequent remarks I hear about the case when confronted by the state misconduct and the lack of evidence are gut feelings I dont buy it Shes guilty She did it I know she did it Her story makes no sense Shes evil Shes crazy. It had to be her.. Washing soda is your best bet: It includes, among its ingredients, the exceedingly corrosive carbolic acid. The definition of deviant sociopath does not even exist in the DSM-HI, which is the official psychiatric diagnostic manual. And if you claim your innocence, it obviously creates a vicious circle of not showing contrition. During a trial, we have to go with evidence only. Cheryl was shot twice in the back and one of the bullets ended up on the floorboard. It will not make me popular, but I dont mind. It was a harrowing, shameful miscarriage of justice. I agree in both cases they were high profile cases. And she would have been under supervision. I am not one sided. What kind of arrangement is appropriate, where should you send it, and when should you send an alternative? Would you seriously be confident enough to present your findings you mention in your article to Diane Downs children? Apparently drug mafia wanted to punish her for messing her nose in forbidden places, not because she was getting any real business in that but simply because she had one of the poorest judgements a person can have. We, who watched her parole hearing a few years ago prayed HARD that she wouldnt be set free, know she is guilty. She felt fulfilled when she was pregnant because she believedit was the road to unconditional love. And the fact that Tracy wrote in his notes that Christies reaction could have been excitement to see her mom but they decided to only mention extreme fear? I dont disagree, I just think it is another example of flaws in our justice system. * Historical, vital, and court records and search results may require an additional purchase. Fair question. I agree. AGE 70s Robert W Knickerbocker Woodlawn, TN Aliases Robert W Knickerbocker Bocker Robert W Knickerbocke Phone Number For all my life I have thought I was not that smart, but now I can tell myself, hey cheer up could be worse. Much worse. Even prosecutor Fred Hugi was seen walking the grounds to try to find the weapon. So she could not have shot her kids at the distance determined by the state unless she changed her clothing and it did not come up at trial. None of this is EVIDENCE of anything in regard to the murder trial, and not once did I read that it was. To Lisa Griggs Powered by WordPress.com VIP. From what Ive read, she gets a parole hearing every decade and the next time in 2030 she will be 75. It took a lot of time to research this case and present the other side of the coin. In 2008, a psych evaluation by L. Williams, Ph.D., Chief of Mental Health at Valley State Prison for Women, explained Dianes lack of emotions and its relationship to her case. Not our place to decide. In fact, watching that was the first time I heard her voice and saw her presence, it was a year or so later that old interviews showed up on YouTube. It was far fetched, unfoundedand convenientlyrelayedby Rule to boost the sales of her book. After all, she was conditioned this way. (Yes in the 1980s a ten yr like myself was not as mature as say todays 10 yr olds. After graduation, Steven joined the Navy and Diane was sent to Pacific Coast Baptist Bible College where she failed miserably at remaining pure and chaste, not unlike most girls of her generation who rejected their strict religious upbringing. Her release was recommended by a warden and a psychiatrist. If it was not such a high profile case, Diane Downs would have been paroled a long time ago, considering her good behavior and lack of priors. She was also shot twice andifshe had been sitting up, the seats would have been covered with blood spatter as well as the shooter. John Shea who played Fred in the TV movie Small Sacrifices even looks like him. They would have tried to reopen the case. You may leave a message for the family by clicking here. So yes I think she did it, I think ration left her a long before she did itI think post pardum played in this, I think, she was scattered all over the map.againjust hearing it in her own words. In 1991, David Brewer, a juror who deliberated Dianes fate in her 1984 trial, came forward to say he and another juror had decided to acquit Downs by the close of the States presentation. They rarely are, especially in the US. Whatever mental illness she has, has gotten worse with each hearing. Discovery, Inc. or its subsidiaries and affiliates. To find out which of Robert De Niro's films stand out among the rest, Stacker found his top 50 movies based on IMDb user ratings. Robert Knickerbocker in Tennessee We found 5 records for Robert Knickerbocker in Woodlawn, Saint Augustine and 2 other cities in Tennessee. I am not saying she is innocent. Do you remember about two days after that the two of you signing a lease on the apartment? Were they involved in the plot too?? As for how to answer this question,,, seems like he is assuming guilt and because of this my parents or me or my brothers and sister, our uncles and aunts were not considered because of an unproven allegation Does he truly believe this is ok??? Page 35 of Case History. I cant believe anyone even believes or even follows you. 3. Anyways, I was 10 years old when this happened, I stayed with my aunt and uncle a lot in those years, in which they watched A LOT of nightly news programs.lol most of it was like white noise to me, as I would play with my barbies on their living room floorbut I do remember this story. That same gun turned up at a police raid years later in Perris, California, and it did not match the ballistics from the shooting site. She never hurt anyone in the process of escaping. 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