"I believe her because of my careful assessment of this case, and my very extensive understanding of what DA is like, what it involves, & how perpetrators & survivors think, behave and react. Honestly, everyone bruises differently but to me it looked like amber was, as you put it, damaged by depp in some way. A presenter appearing on Australian breakfast TV show Sunrise has issued a brutal comment on the Johnny Depp and Amber Heard trial after the Aquaman actress took to the stand. They all took drugs. Your post will be hidden and deleted by moderators. I do want to add though, the ppl on social media dogpiling on her and making fun of and mocking SA allegations are incredibly damaging and triggering to real victims and is not okay. I believed him last week but my god he was so melodramatic. The details of both Depp and Heards testimonies are harrowing all by themselvesgruesome, violent, and containing deeply intimate anecdotes about their relationship. because he is Johnny Deep. Hes just as toxic as she is and vice versa from my pov. This educational content is not medical or diagnostic advice. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. pic.twitter.com/9N6nIctkD0, Winkie! it has nothing to do with who he is. But I think we are conditioned to believe him and not her. PH: (01) 6489130, Lo-Call 1890 208 080 or email: info@presscouncil.ie. Unless she just didn't see anything wrong with it.I suppose she could have made a decision to get sober with him but I heard none of that kind of support. That is a bottle of wine a day. ", "Johnny Depp is so cowardly (we already knew it) that he doesn't even dare to look Amber Heard in the eye and tries to escape this by smiling with his lawyer, drawing," wrote another. WATCH THE VIDEO ABOVE: Psychologist assesses Amber Heards testimony, Stream the world's best reality, entertainment and true crime shows for free on 7Bravo on 7plus >>. Again though, that would be a mutual fight, and him using way more force than necessary to stop her, not him chasing her down and beating her. After all, its hard to keep the small stuff straight when youre telling lots of big lies. May 24, 2022 at 2:52 p.m. EDT Actor Amber Heard listens, next to her lawyer Elaine Bredehoft during Heard's ex-husband Johnny Depp's defamation trial against her at the Fairfax County Courthouse.. They are more inclined to believe a gone girl narrative than that a powerful man, who have severe drug and alcohol problems and history of violent outbursts, was abusive to his wife. Cooper Lawrence didnt mince her words when assessing Heards first morning of testimony. Mandel was also later informed that Depp had violently kicked Heard during an incident that took place in or around 2014. All symptoms of her mental health disorders. I dont think it was as violent as she describes, but I can also see it happening with different details. Journal Media does not control and is not responsible for user created content, posts, comments, Clearly, the point is to establish Heard as a liar. I agree I think shes very much so the aggressor as well. Still would be considered SA though. We are so proud of you for being able to get through her testimony. I dont believe her but I do think her mental state has played a role in this. they like him because hes a popular, power multimillionaire who is also a man. Depp has taken Heard to trial, accusing her of defaming him with domestic-violence allegations. Instead, amber decided to play victim. Pick your battles. Amber Heard did everything she was "supposed" to do. Even die hard JD fans should give a minute to think about this one. He said the pinnacle of sensitivity against this can be found in family-friendly companies like Disney. Amber Heard isnt a perfect victim. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Thanks for contacting us. Hes no shy, poor guy here. So he wrote a message saying such vile and disgusting things about her, just so he can in the same message protect her by saying he cut his own finger. The latest trial was related to Heard's op-ed in The Washington Post that was published in 2018. I could care less about either of them I havent watched a single movie with either of them in it. Yet while Blasey Ford became an immediate cause clbre, a truth-to-misogynist-power meme, a metric of liberal feminist bona fides, Amber Heard has become a punch line. imagine a scenario: theyre in a fight, amber steals and hides his coke out of spite. Women are labelled as money grabbers or dismissed as attention-seekers. On the other hand, he is larger than life. I believe her," tweeted domestic abuse researcher Dr. Emma Katz. i dont think Amber Heard believes Amber Heard. Honestly though they are both actors. Those who know me can tell you about the passion that I have not just for my job and the company that I work for but . And that its fair play if a woman lies about abuse because the odds are the man would end up being an abuser anyway. While he agreed that there were negative stories circulating about Mr Depp before the op-ed, Mr Marks said the column was something different. She showed you many she took of Johnny sleeping or passed out how many photos has she shown you of her injuries as a result of Johnny???. Social media: Before Amber Heard took the stand, Johnny Depp had already won But even the less aggressively Depp-pilled of us want to believe that the Caribbean pirate is blamelessif not squeaky clean then at least under the duress of drug addiction or acting out of character; that his violence can be somewhat explained away by a lapse of judgment or circumstance or both. I wouldn't think the two of them would come out in his defense if he had been violent. They mock a woman they refuse to believe at all even though false reports of domestic violence are extremely rare. Irish sport images provided by Inpho Photography Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. If somebody did the things she did Id prob loose it too. Unless youve been living under a rock for the past few weeks, youll know that the ex-spouses are back in court. Its not a case of shooting himself in the foot. (Yet these two are older than Depp, make Santa Claus look buff, and are greasy, sweaty, sickly-looking alcoholics. In her 2018 op-ed, Ms Heard wrote that like many women, I had been harassed and sexually assaulted by the time I was of college age. Whether you think Heard is telling the truth or not, anyone who has ever been a victim of domestic violence will tell you: None of this is funny. I dont think I could have stayed calm enough after someone severed my finger to not physically respond back. When #JohnnyDepp testified #AmberHeard was staring at him and has done throughout. Amber is obviously lying but a lot of people are saying that when you're traumatized you remember every detail and her inconsistency proves it didn't happen. Maybe Im crazy but I believe Johnny Depp 100% & I wasnt even a Johnny Depp fan prior. Consider that a majority male jury convicted Harvey Weinstein. We are with you, Johnny Depp.". Dont ask Amber Heard to be a perfect victim. Some people do. British TV personality Narinder Kaur also weighed in on the day's court proceedings, as she suggested that opinions had been formed based on the people concerned, rather than their actions. Other weeks it just feels too heavy. They were mean, codependent. He admitted it to his own doctor and those messages were shown in the trial. "I felt safe talking to my mom because I knew she understood those dynamics and she wouldn't judge me for staying with him, for loving him even though this was happening to me," Heard said. I think he loved her and was trying to protect her but to each their own. Thats not to say shes not awful, but I believe her story. He was replaced in his role as Gellert Grindelwald by Mads Mikkelsen. one of the biggest facts imo is that there are no photos that show any damage to amber. Her lawyers are (as of now) far better at painting a picture of her trauma. the evidence points to her being a fat liar. Hes an addict, theyre both inebriated. If it were him on those recordings saying I didnt punch you I slapped you. Apparently, a guy hitting his wife is super hard to believe. Journal Media does not control and is not responsible Why it's enraging that people only believe Amber Heard's domestic violence allegations now that a man has backed her up. Heard has counter-sued for $100 million for nuisance, with her attorneys arguing that the op-ed was a matter of public interest. All the while the abuser is often given the benefit of the doubt. Judges fail to back Adams' drive to curb big crime with cr Biden's WHO pandemic treaty would kill Americans in the name of 'equity', 'Tis the month Don 'GodBlessUs' Lemon and many other celebs were born, JK Rowling showing outstanding moral courage as she stands up to vile woke mob, 11-year-old reads aloud from 'pornographic' book he checked out from library at school board meeting, Family raises 250-pound 'dog' for 2 years then realizes it's a bear, Influencer refuses to switch business class seats so family can sit together, Prince Harry, Meghan Markle confirm they were asked to 'vacate' Frogmore Cottage. Shes basically a brunette AH, and completely insufferable to be around. Depp denied the allegations of domestic violence at the. After watching a segment of trial testimony - where Heard described Johnny Depp as the love of her life but also this other thing this awful thing that would come out - Lawrence was asked her opinion. 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Pathological liar. Sounds better than she did it because lots of drugs , yeah being wasted doesnt help but I am hoping if she was wasted then it was at least unintentional. Hes an addict, theyre both inebriated. Amber Heard has been found guilty on one charge. Johnny Depp 's defamation lawsuit against Amber Heard continues this week in Fairfax County, Va., shining a light on their tumultuous relationship while igniting discussions and debate about. this. It's really hard to know what is authentic and what is an act. Vogue may earn a portion of sales from products that are purchased through our site as part of our Affiliate Partnerships with retailers. Lawrence said Heards first day of testimony sounded rehearsed. Which was horrible and disgusting and deeply disturbed. I'm inclined to sympathize with Depp. "But to do it for such a prolonged period of time on Wednesday, that to me was a problem. Is the pummeling by social media not a type of psychological assault? So why such hatred for Heard? Others believe that even if a romantic relationship between Jason Momoa and Amber Heard hasnt developed, at least not yet, that Lisa Bonet mightve wanted a divorce simply because Momoa didnt stand up for Johnny Depp. Especially, when the news spreads about Amber Heard had flirting with Momoa. And really, its Depp whos the joke here: The would-be coolest of the cool, a 58-year-old man coloring in court as photos of him nodding off, passed out on the floor, are entered into evidence. They broke up in May 2016 and settled their divorce out of court in August 2016. Still, despite the fact that Londons High Court previously found allegations that Depp was a wife beater to be substantially true, the internet appears to have overwhelmingly picked Depps side. I dont really buy that, personally, but it could be. Note that once you confirm, this action cannot be undone. Amber story doesnt make sense?? Like, I feel like Im going crazy because sure its not a complete black eye or anything but if I saw someone show up looking like that I would think they had been in a fight or accident or something? After Depp allegedly threw a cellphone at her face, striking her in the eye, the 30-year-old actress filed for divorce. We want to believe the mysterious good looking man who is largely considered the master of his craft. I found him *somewhat* believable and I find her believable. When he ran out of blood, apparently he also dipped the severed finger in paint to continue writing. I think most people that drink more may self report conservatively. I think he has way more solid evidence of abuse from amber heard than she has to use against him. Opinion: Jurors in Johnny Depp and Amber Heard case face choice over which actor to believe This, of course, doesn't mean that women are the victims and men the perpetrators in every single case. On her first day of testimony, Heard, 36, said the defamation trial was painful. She was dragged into this. supports the work of the Press Council of Ireland and the Office of the Press After tweeting "#IStandWithAmberHeard," the women say they've gotten threatening messages. But as for a perfect villain well, Johnny Depps doing some of his best work in ages. The defamation trial between Mr Depp and Ms Heard began on Monday 11 April in Fairfax, Virginia following Mr Depps lawsuit against his ex-wife in March 2019. #JustSaying. Two are women who believe that AH being abusive is the "reactive abuse" that the psychologist used to excuse her actions. The Abused can't look at the tormentor. I know they both did ridiculous stuff to eachother in their own ways. She sounded rehearsed but she had talking points, she made sure to keep saying eggshells, walking on eggshells, or pattern, pattern of behaviour.. He refuses to look at her. I'm also glad you mentioned the homo/transphobia. Heard is being systematically jeered at and ridiculed like a medieval criminal in the stocks as she catalogs historic abuse, as she alleges rape. They were both completely toxic though and the trial is a mess . Rossalyn Warren / Twitter "I will never forget it," she said. A Group Leader is a What to Expect community member who has been selected by our staff to help maintain a positive, supportive tone within a group. You can change your settings or. People can testify all they want but the bottom line is there is no evidence. When? Nevertheless, that hasnt stopped fans from pointing fingers at Amber Heard for the end of Jason Momoas marriage. There is always misogyny to consider. We respect everyones right to express their thoughts and opinions as long as they remain respectful of other community members, and meet What to Expects Terms of Use. They could have gotten the divorce quietly, gotten the help they need, and moved on. juviderm. The fact that Johnny is kind to his fans, or he looks very gentlemanly . (Ex: him drinking in front of her knowing itll piss her off). Johnny, an addict, looks for the coke and trashes the room in the process. Idk, wish I had time tonight to watch some of her testimony. Depp is suing Heard for libel in Fairfax County Circuit Court in the US after she wrote an op-ed piece in The Washington Post referring to herself as a public figure representing domestic abuse. But I mean, calm down Johnny. Thanx. If either one of them feels justified in any of the things theyve done in this relationship, they need professional intervention on an ongoing (probably permanent) basis. and RollingNews.ie unless otherwise stated. if you read my response Im not a die hard fan. Then after a while, according to Pennington, Heard realises Johnny wasn't joking and goes off looking for him. Ditto. also the destruction of the idea of ptsd victims remember everything. The material on this site may not be reproduced, distributed, transmitted, cached or otherwise used, except with the prior written permission of Cond Nast. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. And two are middle-aged men who are white-knighting, accuse any woman saying they dont believe her of just being jealous because shes so hot and such a strong, successful woman and claim that its disgusting how women are defending Depp. "Him looking down most of the time was concerning. The mother of his children, Winona Ryder, Kate Moss ect.. All concluded he was not an abusive man. We certainly dont want to believe that this entire court case is a precise and conniving operation in discrediting Heard, regardless of what she has to say, regardless of her truth. hammering Heard over her promise to donate her divorce settlement to charities, donations not yet fulfilled. I also believe his version of the story of the headbutt (she was hitting him, he grabbed her flailing arms and accidentally head butted her) although, I believe amber in that he probably head butted her a lot harder than he claims, which did leave bruises. He probably was abusive as a form of reaction but I think surely she was the aggressor. We shouldnt expect them to behave like perfect victims nor should we demonise them for staying in a relationship or not fighting back. A lot of people are not teenaged boys on the internet. Some of the messages were: Call Carly Simon, she said it better, babe, because his past relationships have all said that he was not abusive. You fisted her looking for drugs and dangled your dogs out of the window of moving vehicles. When I go into the courtroom . On Monday, she testified that Depp, more than once, grabbed her by the pubic bone and taunt[ed] me, asking me if I thought I was so fing tough tough like a man now?. His story of grabbing her by the shoulders and sitting her on the bed to let him leave? Psychologist Cooper Lawrence talks about Amber Heards testimony on Sunrise. At this point i wonder if her name is even amber, Shes probably gonna dye her hair brown and call herself Johnny soon with all that copying of outfits . By signing up you agree to our User Agreement and Privacy Policy & Cookie Statement. think twice before sharing personal details, foster a friendly and supportive environment, remove fake accounts, spam and misinformation, delete posts that violate our community guidelines, reviewed by our medical review board and team of experts. It seems like she was trying to remember, They told me to say eggshells.. Think in on of the recordings she tells him that even he told people she was hitting him, who would believe him. the discovery that came out in that trial alone would be enough to scare away any studio., I use him as the model for telling my clients what not to do, a top crisis manager told the magazine. Yes. I know a couple people who are on ambers side because they think Johnny Depp is getting better treatment and that people believe him simply because hes Jonny Depp. The actress captioned the photos with a strong, simple statement: "One dress, four years apart. However, one, or a few instances of MUTUAL physicality does not equate to domestic violence in my opinion. As team depp has already rested their case, I think its fair to say now that the evidence he presented there and here was almost identical. News images provided by Press Association Yeah for sure. You think to yourself, Which one of them is doing the better job of acting?. He admitted to cutting his own finger. After doing some digging, some claim that Amber was potentially stealing quotes from movies and TV shows. Its only now that her story has been corroborated by a man that her allegations are once again being taken seriously. Both inadequately addressed. Kaur commented. I didnt ask because I just stated my opinion you dont have to agree with me. In a statement prior to the trial, Heard said she hoped that after its conclusion, I can move on and so can Johnny.. Domestic abusers seek them out. Experts say because many people do not view Heard as a "perfect victim," they refuse to believe she may be a victim at all. Maybe because the Internet has decided that Depp has already won this trial. He admitted to doing that. Either Pennington wasn't there at all and is lying, or Heard is completely making up the part about Johnny grabbing a woman by the wrist and threatening to snap it. They had many, many heated arguments. But, I acknowledge that Heard's allegations are possible. 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