[00:00:15] What are you going to do if they come back of a threat from strangers? Share. Where will Kimberly and Katie fall in a case of possible B.O.Ws vs. Militant Mountain Chad? The future, an expectation gone forever. They had seen him race off into the night. In the high Sierra. Never step foot outside a prison ever again, not be able to see have not have conjugal visits with his wife, not not be able to see his children go through birthdays and marriages. They asked each other. I mean, if you had a gun and were shooting back, you would be in your right as defending yourself because you're being shot at. I laid there on the ground for a while and somebody was holding on to my leg trying to stop the bleeding. Monitor reporter shooting back home, Chad faces the reality of what's happened. They searched around the car. Description In this Dateline classic, a young father in the California mountains calls 911 to report that he had been in a shoot-out with a car full of strangers. My whole leg had become numb from my knee down. Well, perhaps because the AR 15, which Chad bought legally in Nevada, was illegal in California, though Chad said he didn't know that at any rate. Was this a murder every day I think about what I could think of as my kids. But on a summer night deep in the California Sierra, the terror came out of the dark, came after them to take everything. Shots fired. I kill people on the other side as well, kids in my state, maybe even that he'd been having some sort of flashback. But remember, the defense forensic expert was clear there was gunshot residue in the young man's car and on some of their hands proving they must have fired a gun, must have to, which David Hollister replied, nonsense. But first, they had to choose a jury, which would be a fight in pretty little quinsy, a place composed of gun only country folk and liberal big city transplants. You know, I as far as you know, I've never I never expected for us to be apart. And some of the jury wept as 12 year old DARlAN repeated the story she told us about the night the men came to their property. You don't really know. But that's about all that was true. You know, that's how I felt was as a father is a is a person that is supposed to protect your family and all they could do is offer words, honey, if they come back. Absolutely. We love the place. I mean, I'm not sure how long had gone by, maybe an hour and a half. And he very upset going over again and again what happened at the cabin, on the road, in the middle here. And that's all they would tell us. Chad Wallin-Reed, an army vet and father-of-three, was sentenced to more than 80 years to life in prison for murdering a 20-year-old man who, along with five other men, allegedly stole solar. View All Episodes Add to Playlist Share on: Shop Packages When he comes up, he says, shoot at my house, I got kids or something like that. The Sacramento Bee reports. And it's just complete chaos at that point. So the jury didn't get to hear him say he did the right thing, did what he had to do when he squeezed the trigger. Luis Smythe crouched, wounded and immobile in the back seat. I was front row seat to his life and I'm able to tell her about it at his sentencing hearing. She's happy. Keith Morrison reports. So he's he's fine. The terrible, desperate chase, it's awful. He was hunched over the steering wheel. I just remember this last look on her face and I was just saying I'm sorry. If it was two people shooting at each other. I think pretty well proved that there was a gun in the victim's car and that they fired at Chad. Late on the Saturday night Staley had been taping with a game warden since daybreak, was ready to pack it in. Miles From Nowhere Dateline NBC 18,373 views 7 Jan 2021 Transcribe your podcast [00:00:11] Deep in the woods, a family lives in fear. 7.6 miles they went, careening up the winding country road until the car took a quick turn on to a remote dirt road. When morning came, Chad inspected his friend's campsite near the bottom of the property where those footprints of strangers around their trailer put us on edge. Heartbreaking, tough, funny, enlightening, this short, amazingly compact novel (which has won a bunch of prizes) tells the story of a Korean-American teenager who runs away from her drunken, boorish, absent father and her unstable mother and makes her way on the streets of New York. They found a lone vehicle, its windows blown out. Here's how Olson presented his Stand Your Ground defense in his opening to the jury Shora, because he was fired and he also told the jury his client was a protective family man, doing what he felt he had to do as a father after those menacing visits to his house after this Friday. Keith Morrison reports. It robs you of security. It was worse than anything you would see in a movie. The laser sight was back, its green dot, a roving bull's eye. But my desire is to walk him out of that courtroom. And where Detective Hendrickson is standing is about where they travel past. Maybe it was some kind of accusation, I guess. And then the young man who was connected to that had his right calf shredded by a bullet and turning it hit his leg. Couldn't just take somebody's word for it, but neither could they. Description. I see these three flashes and then I hear crack, crack, crack, crack. I had my revolver and I was headed towards the door and then whoever it was backed up and drove away. These are the 100 children. The Fourth of July weekend, 2011, The Walland Reeds were joined by some friends who set up a little campsite on the property near the road. I mean, they're out in the middle of nowhere on a dirt road, this northern stretch of the Sierra Nevada. Chad is an utter scumbag - Republic of Chad - for the love of all that's holy! I feel sorry for Rory's poor mother and Chad's children - innocent victims in this tragedy. He told us he knew exactly where he shot from. But now the two best friends, Lewis and Rory, were trapped in the dark. Miles From Nowhere Dateline NBC True Crime In this Dateline classic, a young father in the California mountains calls 911 to report that he had been in a shoot-out with a car full of strangers. 1 hr 23 min Miles From Nowhere Dateline NBC True Crime In this Dateline classic, a young father in the California mountains calls 911 to report that he had been in a shoot-out with a car full of strangers. Remember those three non chad shell casings found on the road that the defense made such a big fuss about? Oh, I have high rent. And I called out and I got in through and right. And seven point six miles away, out in the mountains, snow has begun to blanket the meadow, hiding the only remnants of what happened, a few shards of glass and the Little Rock to mark the spot where a young man with so much potential. Now, Chad detailed how he used the rifle again, what he saw Rory's car make a sudden U-turn and thought that they're going to get out of the engagement. That's what they believe. I think that trial will. Not to after this with military training, who, you know, react. Sure. Yes. And so they got out of control. You're in the dark. Just somewhat odd the story as it unfolded each each time we talked to him and it's somewhat changed. She took no chances. No idea where help might be. These guys were bad news and said, I'm going to try to catch up to these guys, you know, get them, you know, catch them, get their license plate or get their information or something, you know, because it was apparent that this was more than just we're here to play and joke around with you. He was, as he told the detectives, ex military, once an Army Ranger, you don't get to be one of those without good judgment and real character. I said, I'm going to go call the sheriff. Of course, no one could know the way the jury would go, especially in a town divided by quinsy, you're holding your breath the whole time, whether it's your first trial or your fiftieth. Someone is killed in a vehicle for him, it was bad, worse than anything you would see in a movie. When you come back this way, back in this corner right here, yeah, Chad made it quite clear he used a small pistol, 380 caliber, to return fire during the chase. With one man dead and two others injured, authorities wonder if this was self-defense or something else. Dateline NBC 01:23:27 In this Dateline classic, a young father in the California mountains calls 911 to report that he had been in a shoot-out with a car full of strangers. Working in the wine industry together since 1986, but Franklin had his start earlier, planting his parents first vines in 1973. . Why the initial reluctance? No. And the next thing you know, there's all these muzzle flashes. [00:00:20] Daddy will protect us. And we said, we didn't shoot your house. I didn't sit there at the moment. Those kids did everything they could to give up. In this Dateline classic, a young father in the California mountains calls 911 to report that he had been in a shoot-out with a car full of strangers. That night, deputies led by Sergeant Perry Mitchard, a few miles from the meadow, listened to his account of the chase and they started shining the spotlight back at me. He didn't say shoot at me in the car. My dad is here to protect us. It's not often that a gift drops in a person's lap manna from heaven. But the sheriffs in the warden's right away saw that he had it on too tight and he'd had it on too long and was very painful. Nothing like that. It was horrible. Those who could read, I said, come on, let's go. NBC | CHCH | Air Date: October 18, 2013. And he watched vigilent didn't rest easy, especially because one of those break ins had been just that very year. Not a gang banger is doesn't have a criminal record. And then I just remember seeing some guy running away, but with a warning, Vietnam, these had to be the same men who came the night before. But while Sergeant Pepper was talking to Chad, some of the other detectives were out in the meadow looking for the weapon or weapons those young men must have fired at Chad. What happened the next night would change all their lives. Miles From Nowhere Watch the full episode online. Yeah. Absolutely, his talk about I only fired three shots, I used the pistol, all these other lives added up the liar, said Hollister, who shot those young men out of anger, pure and simple. The Secrets of Birch View Drive 1/10/2023 But here's the thing. That same Sunday morning, Chad and Kerry's children woke up to the sound of strangers rummaging through the cabin and search through our stuff. It was in the dark that the fear began in the dark with the sounds of the black night around and that it grew and grew, it terrorized our family, our friends who was out there in the dark here, miles and miles in the primeval woods, so far from safety, from civilized protection, they could just come onto our property and invade our lives. And they took all four guns. The cabin is approximately two hours from Quincy, where the trial took place. He fired a warning shot. I'll be talking with writer Wright Thompson about nostalgia, memory, the South and Bourbon. And they took it off and he was bleeding a lot this badly wounded man, plus the others, May five. It was elements that could make up gunshot residue. And I'm surprised I could still feel pain because my leg had gone numb so long ago. In fact, all night chatted, but a deep conversation with detectives from the police county sheriff's office. They got to dump the gun out there somewhere, but they didn't all run, went up to the right here, remember the one shot in the leg, the one whose hand they saw sticking up, who was found bleeding out in the meadow? Oh, he said he remembered quite clearly what their assailants said just before he got into his truck to leave. I was very shocked, except for the plate that they placed over his head where the bullet went in, I. I just remember him as looking like he was asleep, so you can probably hear him every day, I think of that. I was a ranger and they soon find Chad's camp is changing. He was frankly lucky to keep the leg and survived the night. Oh, throughout the whole rest of this trip, there's flurries of shots being taken out of this desperate now rushing along the road. During the pursuit, he believed he saw muzzle flashes and heard gunshots coming from the victims' car. To people fuming is possibly all Chad might have done, except a prominent defense attorney named John Olson heard about Chad's predicament and saw the way he believed to set him free. We were looking for a friend of ours, brother, who was having a gathering up. I told them. I knew we couldn't fix what had happened, but maybe we'd give her just a little sense of justice. Now they return to the car. But as the hours stretched through the night into July 4th, Chad began to see more and more clearly, but he was not to blame. That's all. chad was still in hot pursuit. They scared your family. Right beside you. He makes the whole case will boil down to whether Chad was fired upon and shot back in self-defense, Olsen said the evidence backed Chad up. He was gone. But what should he do? It was a. He fought for our freedom. What did that feel like? We were just sitting there on the porch kicking back, relax and be. Yes. Certainly relief some of the friends had run for cover during the shooting. Watch the green dot move across his body, waited for the gunman to finish him off. The makeshift team convoyed to the meadow, geared up for a possible shoot out. Where are you going to be acquitted? Chad reportedly shot at the speeding car several times as he pursued it in the darkness. How would a jury know what the state needed was something that would prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Chad was lying about what happened out there in the night and seemed like maybe they had just exactly that. We were able to make a call out there. In fact, right from the start, that amazing shock of red hair at birth surprising even his own mother, Carol, if his name was going to be Colin. Then over the radio came a new twist. It's just it's unimaginable. When I got shot, that felt like he kind of came over my leg when the car finally came to a stop. He had printed up business cards. From Transcript of 'Miles From Nowhere' - Dateline NBC Verdict: Guilty of First Degree Murder 3D Laser Scanning and GPS Analysis 115 S. Church Street Grass Valley, CA 95945 (877) 339-7378 info@precisionsim.com precisionsim.com Document, Analyze, Visualize; Turn Jurors into Witnesses MILES FROM NOWHERE was one of my choices for best books of 2009. With one man dead and two others. With one man dead and two others injured, authorities wonder if this was self-defense or something else. So, Carol, heart in her mouth raced along the highway to Reno and her son Rory. What the children saw the world and certainly their retreat here in the country is a safe place for them, just as it should be. Yes, of course. Well, I think that, uh. A . Confusion and terror, a very different story of those shots in the dark. You go on hikes and there is like a lake that was very close to it. We're speeding to get there, to perhaps break it up, perhaps stop it, perhaps save lives. Sources state that the six men, all between the ages of 19 and 20, arrived at the location of Chad's property in a car and tried trespassing on two consecutive nights irrespective of the warning signs, which made his family fear the worst. Remember Chad's insistence that the car came straight at him through the meadow as if for a final showdown and it looked like they were coming straight out? And I just remember this as young boys saying, I give up, give up, give up. Adding to the confusion, the remote location, multiple locations in two gentlemen at the campground. That's when I noticed one of the solar lights have been taken, a solar light, one of several attached to metal poles marking the edge of the property. What steps do we go through? And was there something else that might, through Chad, fired in self-defense? So what attitude in your mind did he have when when he took after those kids? Staley recorded everything. The detectives took us there to show us. He's my best buddy. I was just like in my mind, thinking, where are you? He was not a ranger. So they were coming this way. And then next thing you know, I was looking up. How can I help you? It used to seem like that happening to you. United States. Louis told us it's his duty now to keep Rory's memory alive for himself and for Carol, who's in his life now for good. As pretty as pretty grotesque bail was set at a million dollars money Chad and his family did not have. If you want to look at a textbook definition for doing everything you can to power, to withdraw, to say no more were done, they did it. And sure enough, there was a second chance. The prosecutor had an animation created which showed the car was not heading toward Chad's truck, but instead was heading around it away from Chad. It means a lot to him. With one man dead and two others injured, authorities wonder if this was self-defense or something else. "Miles From Nowhere" Airs Saturday, March 8 at 8pm/7c In the California mountains, a young father called 911 to report that . Did you ever consider my kids? Official Publications from the U.S. Government Publishing Office. All right. No car, no cell service, no idea exactly where they were. In this Dateline classic, a relaxing vacation turns into a nightmare when Stephen Reitz wakes up to find his girlfriend, Eva Weinfurtner, murdered. And I said, look, we didn't shoot your house. He was a lot worse off, but he was talking he was moving his mouth, I could hear sounds I couldn't make, I couldn't make any words out, you know, but it didn't look good. Chad's wife, Carrie, told us she already knew what the outcome would be. And then at the very end of the the interview and the drive, then he finally did tell us that there was another gun used. I was like, what the heck is going on? And then he started shooting at their car. It was all these conflicting reports coming in over the radio. You're telling me that they fired three shots. It's just the worst being without my husband and the children being without their father. He carried his rifle just like the Army trained did. So it's like you can't believe it now. What do you think is the appropriate thing that should happen to this man? Keith Morrison reports. Like, did he say? And right as Cesar was getting into the car, I heard what sounded like a gunshot. It actually won. And so hence Rory, Colin McGuire. With one man dead and two others injured, authorities wonder if this was self-defense or something else. Yes, sir, I think it finally sunk in that it was all going to come back to him and he was going to get caught in his story. And now his sentence, 84 years to life. He explains that the definition of "frontier" has to do with how many people live within one square mile, and then he commences to visit all the loneliest, most . Jason's like now going back would be a terrible idea. Force will be used, deadly force, red blooded Christians only. My heart kind of jumped and I knew it was. And I was just saying, I'm sorry. They held a white T-shirt out the window. Sometimes I've cried for my dad. And there were other victims. Yes. Miles From Nowhere from Dateline NBC on RadioPublic Dateline NBC 448 Episodes Produced by NBC News Website Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. I knew. He was exciting. And we get about halfway up the grade and we approach the property again, the wall and read property. And yet, said the prosecutor, Chad kept right on shooting. Chad's wife, Kerry, up in the cabin with the kids, couldn't tell what Chad was saying outside. No addresses where you got on. One of them hopped out of the car. He admitted he fired the AR 15 just before he got to the meadow. And on top of that, there was that wild card jury, people who needed to be persuaded that Chad showed bad judgment and very poor character laser geometry. So what I remember was I got loaded into a paramedic and at this point just major relief. And then we could see the oil that had been laid down by Rory McGuire's car using that trail of oil. For one thing, shards of broken glass, which clearly mark precisely where the car was when Chad blew out the windows. To render aid, this is not a battle zone. Where will Kimberly and Katie fall in a case of possible B.O.Ws vs. Militant Mountain Chad? He was vivacious. In other words, Chad wasn't shooting to disable the cars and the prosecutor, the evidence suggested he was shooting to kill the occupants even as they were trying to get away. Then the cops took Chad down that dirt road which led into the meadow. You believe that? Chad began looking forward to a trial, turned down a deal from the DEA. Fair enough. But we would still be in fear that these people would come back to our to terrorize us more. And from what the detectives told him, what happened seemed pretty clear today. And then everyone saw you heard nothing on the trunk of my car. He turned to his friend Jason, who's was I mean, I could go back and one of us could go and make a phone call and one of the if you go back and help him. Must've been terrifying. It was the 4th of July weekend. I went up to the right here right now and everyone was like, whoa, we got to hand. You know, of course, bourbon, which is the most nostalgic and mythologized of old drinks. It's horrible. I want you to stand up and say we shot footage of the encounter, which later became part of the official public record. Wounded, trapped, they can only wait where's the shooter coming to finish the job? No, because he wouldn't have this problem now. Yes, I need a report of shooting a shooting. Probably not to make it. A bloody and baffling scene for the deputies. If the gunman returned, we had fear that he was going to come back and finish the job. Why Antelope Lake, because the man told Detective Henrikson there were cabins there, people safety. And if he can lie about that. Rory's father, Carol's ex-husband, Dave McGuire, came to tried not successfully to hold back his soaring rage as a soldier. Chad Wallin-Reed was ultimately charged with first-degree murder, along with seven other offenses, including shooting at an occupied car, the illegal possession of an assault rifle, and five counts of assault with a deadly weapon. They believe that they would be just a few minutes from safety. To witness your children. Away from my husband back in the woods, Chad Cavin, the detectives who arrested him, prowled the property still decorated in Fourth of July. Chad grabbed the AR 15 and I just showed you out the window and fired off. Some people had been shooting at each other. That night was in effect of this incident on you and your husband. Who were these men? One of the most recent ones, somebody just pretty much ransacked the whole place. But the very same time, Rory McGuire's mother, Carol, cried for her son. How do they know where the car was when it was hit by the shattered glass of its windows? composer additional music (uncredited) Additional Crew Al Cerullo . So when you're looking at the South, you do need to understand the power and seductiveness of mythology and always be aware of the fact that if you aren't looking out for it, it will get you. They have a gun when he approached their car. There was Lewis, of course, and his very best friend, a 20 year old junior college student named Rory McGuire. Remember how the young man's car hit a rock, cracked open the oil pan. Chad then opened fire on the car with his assault rifle as they were driving past, hitting the driver and two other passengers. 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